Friday, 4 November 2011

Dream Action, Real Brain Activation

A neat little study has brought Inception one step closer to reality. The authors used fMRI to show that dreaming about doing something causes similar brain activation to actually doing it.

The authors took four guys who were all experienced lucid dreamers - able to become aware that they're dreaming, in the middle of a dream. They got them to go to sleep in an fMRI scanner. Their mission was to enter a lucid dream and move their hands in it - first their left, then their right, and so on. They also moved their eyes to signal when they were about to move their hands.

Unfortunately, only one of the intrepid dream-o-nauts succeeded, even though each was scanned more than once. Lucid dreaming isn't easy you know. Two didn't manage to enter a lucid dream. One thought he'd managed it, but the data suggested he might have actually been awake.

But one guy made it and the headline result was that his sensorimotor cortex was activated in a similar way to when he made the same movements in real life, during the lucid dream -  although less strongly. Depending on which hand he was moving in the dream, the corresponding side of the brain lit up:


EEG confirmed that he was in REM sleep and electromyography confirmed that his muscles were not in fact being activated. (During REM sleep, an inhibitory mechanism in the brain prevents muscle movement. If the EMG shows activity this is a sign that you're actually partially awake).

They also repeated the experiment with another way of measuring brain activation, NIRS. Out of five dudes, one made it. Interesting this showed the same pattern of results - weak sensorimotor cortex activation during movement - but it also showed stronger than normal supplementary motor area activation, which is responsible for planning movements.


This is rather cool but in many ways not surprising. After all, if you think about it, dreaming presumably involves all of the neural structures that are involved in really perceiving or doing whatever it is you're dreaming about. Otherwise, why would we experience it so clearly as being a dream about that thing?

It may be, however, that lucid dreaming is different, and that the motor cortex isn't activated in this way in normal dreams. I suppose it depends what the dream was about.

That raises the interesting question of what someone with brain damage would dream about. On the theory that dream experiences come from the same structures as normal experiences, you shouldn't be able to dream about something that you couldn't do in real life... I wonder if there's any data on that?

ResearchBlogging.orgDresler M, Koch SP, Wehrle R, Spoormaker VI, Holsboer F, Steiger A, Sämann PG, Obrig H, & Czisch M (2011). Dreamed Movement Elicits Activation in the Sensorimotor Cortex. Current biology : CB PMID: 22036177

11 comments:

omg said...

What if they're actually doing something in a different dimension or time?

Apparently seasoned lucid dreamers should be able to interpret their surroundings.. for example, there's going to be a flood in so and so in 2 weeks.

Also you can artificially induce lucid dreams using 'binaural beats'? Haven't tried..

Anonymous said...

I intended to give the paper a quick read after my usual routine of reading methods section first. Methods section where are you? Oh there you are in the online supplemental information. What kind of journal allows all of the data processing info to be placed in supplemental materials?

This paper used slice timing correction and motion correction. Two operations that should not (actually can not except in improbable movement scenarios) be treated as separately. I would assume that these dreamers (the subjects) moved considerably or there would be no need to do motion correction. The processing is dubious at best and unfortunately typical.

Mrwonkish said...

Tagging this article to see if somebody answer your interesting last question.

Anonymous said...

Neuroskeptic wrote:

"" ... you shouldn't be able to dream about something that you couldn't do in real life..."

I have flying dreams.

omg said...

You can get high in real life. The other day I was a naughty donkey.. who could refute me? I swear I had hooves :)

Dov Henis said...

First learn what sleep is...:

Understand Sleep

From
http://universe-life.com/2011/07/16/sleep-researchers-are-still-researching/

Why Life Eats And Why Life Sleeps:

-Life ( and other, inanimate, mass spin arrays ) eats because the universe expands.

-Life sleeps because RNAs genesised-evolved long before metabolism evolved. They were active ONLY during sunlight hours. Thus sleep is inherent for RNAs, even though, being ORGANISMS, they now adapt to when/extent sleep time are feasible…

Dov Henis
(comments from 22nd century)
http://universe-life.com

Anonymous said...

I also have lucid dreams and lucid flying dreams. I have a very clear idea 'dream' sense of how to fly. I'd be fascinated to know which bit of my motor cortex is activated when i fly. It's a very different experience from any I achieve in real life.

ATA said...

"" ... you shouldn't be able to dream about something that you couldn't do in real life..."

From my experince from more than 1000 lucid dream you can dream about anything.

But different thinks have different dificulty.

For instance is much easier materialize something behaind back tnah direcly in front eyes.You must overcome many border created in dayli life.

You can also chnged the body size
feel multiple bodyes at once,changet to the eagle or even the river (wery hart to descripe feeling you just flow )

Superpovers in dream:
telekynesis , fireball,stoping the time, materialization ,flaing,teleportation
and many others

its be nice to see what is going in the brain in this.

i menaged to do 2 EOG signaled lucid dream to and planing try to induce luciddreaming by tDCS neurostimulation

Dov Henis said...

Consciousness is a brainchild, and the brain is a progeny of mono-cells communities evolution:

Origin Of Brained-Nerved Organisms

From http://universe-life.com/2012/02/03/universe-energy-mass-life-compilation/

Evolution of life, of mass formats self-replication:

RNA nucleotides Genes (organisms) to RNA and DNA genomes (organisms) to mono-cellular to multicellular organisms.
Individual mono-cells to cooperative mono-cells communities, “cultures”.
Mono-cells cultures to neural systems, then to nerved multicellular organisms.

Dov Henis
(comments from 22nd century)

Anonymous said...

Last question is damn genius. I don't know about any research like that done with brain lesions.

Neuroskeptic said...

Asking genius questions and burying them at the bottom of posts where no-one reads them is what we do here at Neuroskeptic.